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GEN. POWELL: Well, bloated doesn't necessarily mean the whole department is bloated. Bloated mean there is are probably things in the department that you can take a hard look at and determine whether or not you need it in light of the current situation and the strategy that we are implementing. You know, when-- when I was chairman, we saw the end of the Soviet Union, a completely different change in-- in our strategic positioning. And we eliminated a million troops and cut the budget 25 percent. That's not the case now. But there's no reason why a secretary of defense should go into office thinking can't change anything, can't cut anything. You know, the people who say that, oh, that's terrible, he is going to try to find things to cut in the department are the same people who are saying we have got to cut spending, we have got to cut spending. Everything has to be looked at--entitlements, more revenue, and yes you have to look at the Defense Department to see if there are opportunities for savings.

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